tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-93128882024-03-07T18:34:10.071-05:00ToothfaceThe rantings, musings, poems, and arguments of a dude who was a drywall salesman and is now a pastor. Journey from 2004-2010.Lukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.comBlogger506125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-49730267520380182342010-11-23T11:30:00.001-05:002010-11-24T09:37:00.823-05:00Continuing the Fun!so the post below this is truly the final--this post is just to give you the heads up on two things.<br />
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<b>first,</b> i have another blog. <a href="http://associatedluke.blogspot.com/">you can find it here</a>. it's about my journey as an associate pastor who thinks associatively.<br />
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<b>second,</b> Shutterfly is the coolest! Right now there is a Shutterfly’s Holiday Card promotion were <a href="http://bit.ly/sfly2010">bloggers can get 50 free cards from Shutterfly</a> by talking about it on your blog, and selling your blogger soul a little bit. But we've really been happy with Shutterfly and order all sorts of things from them, so it's not too much of a stretch to sing their praises.<br />
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another reason is because i really don't know what to put. it's been about 6 years since i started blogging here, 8 total years as this blog was spun off of Politik7, a political blog a few (6 to be exact) of my friends and i started back in 2002. i spun this off of P7 to have my own space. P7 went idle and then we decided to delete it, although I do have a word file of all the posts. it is interesting reading those, because where i am now is so far from where i was back then. so i guess i can talk a little about that journey and what i have gained from blogging.<br />
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when i started i was hopelessly liberal. Al Franken and i were best buds and we hung out with Mikey Moore and toilet papered Ann Coulter's house ever weekend. i was purely motivated by the injustices of the Bush Administration and had a blind hatred of all things Republican which included Christianity. so i turned Buddhist. a lazy buddhist, a buddhist without a community, a faith gleened from books like "An Idiot's Guide to Buddhism" and "Living Buddha, Living Christ." i described myself as "Spiritual but not religious."<br />
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that was during college... i married Kate and we moved away from our protective bubble that surrounds Athens Ohio, and into the DC area. we found we needed a community, so we tried the various churches around and even the Buddhist temple. the temple didn't fit because we, namely I, wasn't Buddhist. i was Christian. and before I could move on to become a Buddhist, i MUST heal my wounds from Christianity which i felt were legion.<br />
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<ul><li>the pain of growing up Catholic with a priest who thought my single mom was going to hell.</li>
<li>the slash and burn style of many Christians</li>
<li>the hypocrisy and materialism of "pop" Christianity</li>
<li>and many others... fill in your own...</li>
</ul><div>we found Emmaus and we were at home. and healing had begun. Emmaus was progressive, Open and Affirming, and liberal in thought... however, i came to realize that the wounds i felt i was healing FROM i also happened to be inflicting as well. i was just as closed-minded as the conservatives i was railing against. nor do i think it is healthy to have a theology based over and against something.</div><div><br />
</div><div>seminary has brought a whole new set of considerations as well as a new way of articulating my thoughts. what i have learned in seminary that being "spiritual but not religious" is a cop-out. being spiritual means i can customize any faith tradition to fit my needs. this can result in an extremely misunderstood and colonialist thought system which goes against the original intent of the doctrines, creeds, and ideas i'm smashing together. religion demands something of you. it causes you to change and consider things you would rather not.</div><div><br />
</div><div>so now i find myself religious and spiritual. spiritual and religious. i may fly off on speculative flights of fancy, but i am grounded by my community, my denomination and it's history, and by the wider Christian history. i now think that there is no way one can fully understand US history without considering the church movements. we gotta know this stuff, it has effected us in ways we don't know. example: if your frig is Amada and your silverware Onieda, congrats! you just bought something from a Christian Utopian Movement from the Second Great Awakening! it permeates our culture in ways we can't begin to comprehend.</div><div><br />
</div><div>now you may say "well Luke, that's fine and well and good, but i think you're biased. and what about the separation of church and state?" well, first the separation of church and state deals only with <i>funding </i>meaning that there will be no state-sponsored church. it does not mean prayer should be kept from the public forum. however, if Christians want to keep public prayer public, then they had best get more inclusive and think about their theology inherent in their prayer before spouting off at the next city council meeting. and i am biased. absolutely. i like history. i like knowing why California and Texas and Florida have Spanish style Churches... or why Lancaster PA has a 60% inner-city Puerto Rican Population and what considerations and changes that causes on the wider community. </div><div><br />
</div><div>history leaves marks, scars that never fade.</div><div><br />
</div><div>i've found that while i still lean left, i can communicate much better with those who think different from me. i would now call myself "progressive" which is neither left nor right but forward. i would also say i'm an aspiring "Neo-Orthodox" guy, but still young. still likely to fall back on liberal things, but that's not a good nor bad thing, but a product of who i am and how i came to be.</div><div><br />
</div><div>i am a student of history and have learned to affirm my own. </div><div><br />
</div><div>i've learned i have a slap-dash style of blogging that needs tightening up. </div><div><br />
</div><div>i ain't got the best grammar or speeling, and i never capitalize much. the capitalization is on purpose as i try my best to be humble on here as a reminder not to spout off too much at those i think are crazy. </div><div><br />
</div><div>and i've had my fair share of crazy traffic. </div><div><br />
</div><div>without this blog i would have not known of the gnostic revival thanks to Yuergen, <a href="http://christianityisdead.wordpress.com/">thelema practice</a>, that Marcionites are still around thanks to <a href="http://beosmusings.blogspot.com/">Beowulf</a>, that Anglicans are the true church, but yet the Jews are still the chosen ones, and that Atheists could have a spiritual side. so a big thanks to many of the crazies who stuck with me and became my good blogging buddies. This goes out to the Anglican Family, Sabio, Cody, Jacq, the canon of Yael, Doug, John T, and Jay Bird, and those 30 some ppl who visit the site but never comment. </div><div><br />
</div><div>thanks for your time and considerations. </div><div><br />
</div><div>thanks for keeping me humble. </div><div><br />
</div><div>thanks for offering your two cents. </div><div><br />
</div><div>thanks for all that you have said and done and please forgive me for anything i have said or done or have not said or done.</div><div><br />
</div><div>if you want to keep in touch, drop me a line at omega[UNDERSCORE]raven AT yahoo DOT com. the part in brackets is this "_" which was done to keep spammers away. i will blog again but in a different setting and under much stricter rules... it won't be done here again. this blog needs retired. i will leave it up for another two weeks and then it will go private. </div><div><br />
</div><div>thanks again and i hope that you find life good and enjoyable. may you feel blessed in however you understand that term. may you serve something bigger than yourself, may you treat others how you wish to be treated. until we meet again... RAWK!!!!!!</div>Lukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.com6tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-54311020379534094842010-06-08T10:31:00.000-04:002010-06-08T10:31:49.565-04:00FavoritesI will try to keep my list of favorites brief. I have really enjoyed blogging over the years and I must say that I'm pleasantly surprised to what this blog has turned into. it started off as a place to keep funny links and stupid thoughts i've had while running around the DC metro area. when I decided to go to seminary, the nature of the blog changed. I have tried to report some of what i was learning and considering in seminary and the discussions have been rich. so here are just a few posts that i have enjoyed over the years.<br />
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here is the first announcement: the post entitled <a href="http://toothface.blogspot.com/2007/05/getn-my-robe-on.html">Get'n My Robe On</a>.<br />
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i've posted many poems, but my favorite by far is the <a href="http://toothface.blogspot.com/2008/06/objective-walk.html">Objective Walk</a>. when i read it, i'm immediately transported to those late night walks i took with Sonny as a break from writing whatever paper for whatever class. it is amazing what insights and clarity can be gained by walking your dog.<br />
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on an academic, purly theoretical side, i really liked <a href="http://toothface.blogspot.com/2008/06/created-reality.html">Created Reality</a>. it shows largely how i view the world and what meaning i make out of it. there was a good discussion that followed it. good use of science, TED Talks (yay) and post-modern philosophy and theology. <br />
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my favorite journaly-personal happenings style posts, i liked a pair of posts about when my favorite flower pot was stolen. later, i found that a friend down the street took it because she thought it would be funny while she was really drunk. <a href="http://toothface.blogspot.com/2008/04/life-lessons-in-flower-pot.html">Life Lessons in a Flower Pot</a> is a study in how to look for God in daily life and nonattachment. <a href="http://toothface.blogspot.com/2008/04/waterboard-your-friends-for-fun-and.html">Water Board Your Friends for Fun and Profit</a> is the follow up post for when the flower pot was returned. it is a funny and ironic rant that is political and theological at the same time... i wish i wrote more posts like it. <br />
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two posts that show how others view me and that i read when i'm feeling inadequate are <a href="http://toothface.blogspot.com/2009/05/lay-committe-evaluation.html">my lay committee evalutation</a> from my time spent as an intern at TRUCC and the letter from <a href="http://toothface.blogspot.com/2009/12/theological-review-of-yours-truly.html">Prof. Dr Peter Schmiechen</a> it's good to have those type of things to return to when you feel confused... or in my case, more confused than usual.<br />
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finally a reflection on fatherhood entitled <a href="http://toothface.blogspot.com/2009/08/how-low-is-bar-set.html">How Low is the Bar Set?</a> was pretty cool. i was going to put the debate i had with a conservative christian from Confessions of a Seminarian about "Biblical Masculinity" but i feel that this post does everything that post did without the polemics. <br />
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that is just a sampling, short and sweet. do you have any favorites? i could have put a lot more with Eve in there, but i'm attempting to be modest and not too sappy. ;-)<br />
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and a small announcement, the next and final post will be next Tuesday. lots going on and i want time to really reflect and say something coherent.Lukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-67280976942931811352010-06-03T06:46:00.000-04:002010-06-03T06:46:00.679-04:00The Faithover the course of seminary, i sure have changed, but i've stayed the same in many ways too.here's what i know:<br />
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i am still dismayed at the actions of my more conservative brothers and sisters in the faith. the far-right bothers me to no end and i don't know how to reach them.<br />
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the far left, i've discovered, is no better. they are equally closed-minded and intolerant. however, if i had to pick between the two, i'd head left because they wouldn't blow anything up or kill anyone. they would just brow-beat you into submission, albeit very politely.<br />
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i've found that Church History is very important and has contributed much to science, ethics, and sociology. it's very important to know religious history in the US, IMHO. we're in the midst of it right now as we speak, and history has been shaped by the two Great Awakenings that happened in this country. the conservative Neo-Evangelical movement currently going on is but a re-hashing of these two movements in a variety of ways.<br />
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liberal Christianity gets no press and that's a shame. and if liberal Christianity gets no press, the progressive form is getting even less... progressive is the "emergent" label, one could say, that it is neither right nor left but forward. those like Johnny Baker, Rob Bell, Peter Rollins, Brian McLaren, and Phillis Tickle are great reads and speak to all sides of the theological spectrum.<br />
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i realized just how much of a pastor i really am, thanks to CPE and my internship at a local church.<br />
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i found out that i'm really a Christian... well i'm becoming one any how. it's a process that's continual and unfinished. but i really can't answer the question to why.... is it because i was raised in the culture? because i find similar themes in my personal narrative as in the gospel narratives? because i'm inherently tribal and want to fit in? further more, how am i to judge what is a Christian and what isn't? who sets the standard?<br />
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what works for me maybe totally insufficient for someone else. the overwhelming experience i've had may leave another totally cold and unconvinced. so there is really no rational argument i can construct that would be all telling and universal. i can only answer as Jurgen Moltmann did in his book, Experiences of God and state that I am a Christian for Christ's sake.<br />
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i feel that the basis of my faith (defined as the "substance of things hoped for") is liberation for the oppressed, a wake up call to those asleep, and love of neighbor as ourselves as well as a love of a "higher ideal" that is beyond us and cannot be put to utilitarian purposes. it is good in and of itself. i call this higher ideal God and feel that it's more than a human construct. you can disagree. but i hope we can find a shared meaning and purpose to our lives regardless of belief.Lukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-27797979286484843762010-06-01T12:20:00.000-04:002010-06-01T12:20:57.920-04:00The FallThe Fall has been a sticking point for me in Christian thought. I never really got it. How the fall was explained to me growing up, is that we are all punished for the disobedience shown by Adam and Eve in the garden of eden from eating the fruit (usually depicted as an apple) from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. I rejected this outright saying that it was, bluntly, stupid and of no use.<div><br />
</div><div>however, during seminary i had an <a href="http://toothface.blogspot.com/search/label/existential%20crisis">existential crisis</a> around spring semester. how it happened is not important, but what it showed me was my painful transition from how i used to think to how i think now. i used to think people were fundamentally good and if we just gave them the right tools, the right education, they would improve and the world would be a better place. i no longer believe that. i think people are mixed bag (best articulated in my <a href="http://toothface.blogspot.com/2009/05/crisis-elevator-version.html">elevator version post</a>).</div><div><br />
</div><div>then in August, i wrote <a href="http://toothface.blogspot.com/2009/08/fallen-letter.html">A Fallen Letter</a> which came from reading Irenaeus of Lyons writing on the subject. that was helpful. Now i'm reading "Moral Man and Immoral Society" by Reinhold Niebuhr and I like his take. It lines up with my own.<br />
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To Reinhold Niebuhr, the myth of the Fall expresses or discloses this situation of ourselves and of all other humans: in each the fault of all, in all the fault of each. Thus this story is “true” but not “literally true.” as it’s not an actual historical event. it discloses, but it does not explain, our situation.<br />
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I’m on board with this after much struggling to understand the doctrine of the fall. i denied it, i hated it, but after 3 years of seminary, i’ve lived it. you think if anyone could get it right and live in community, it’d be seminarians. that’s not the case, we’re just as bad as everyone else and subject to the same faults. </div><div><br />
</div><div>so i now view humanity a little differently than i did 3 years ago. i think we're largely an unfinished as a species. we have poor instincts and we have to be taught a great deal more than other animal species. also, unlike other species, we have great imaginations that can create worlds unto themselves even while dying. we have the capacity for great good as well as great evil. it is my hope, and the hope of all Christians, that we all become more Christ-like: radically welcoming the outsider, conscious and humble of our own sins, living to serve others. </div><div><br />
</div><div>that's where i'm at now.<br />
</div>Lukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.com16tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-80901470318839830842010-05-28T11:04:00.000-04:002010-05-28T11:04:37.045-04:00The Final FourGearing up for the last four posts which will happen over these next two weeks.here's what the posts will be about:<br />
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<b>The Fall</b>- where i talk my struggle with the Christian doctrine that has confused me the most over the years and what i think of it now.<br />
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<b>The Faith</b>- where i was and where I am now.<br />
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<b>The Favorites</b>- some favorite posts over the years<br />
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<b>The Final</b>- where i write something awesome and touching and you cry at you computer.... or maybe not...<br />
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stay tuned dear readers!Lukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-57769023101847578682010-05-26T12:12:00.000-04:002010-05-26T12:12:30.260-04:00LOSTi love the tv show <a href="http://abc.go.com/shows/lost">LOST</a>. my buddy Jason got me hooked on it around at the beginning of the third season and it's been one of our favorite shows ever. between that and the new Battlestar Galactica, we were in tv heaven.<br />
i've resisted posting too much on it until now, so if you don't want to read any spoilers, read no further.<br />
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<b>seriously.</b><br />
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-large;"><b>don't read if you think you'll watch the show....</b></span><br />
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<i>you sure?</i><br />
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<b>okay... here we go...</b><br />
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-large;"><b>wait, really? you're not going to watch it? or have you already... okay, i'll quit stalling...</b></span><br />
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i love the whole narrative of LOST, it has something for everyone. it is very post-modern this way as it largely could be experience in a variety of ways. if you like drama, it had it. action, tons! mystery, how 'bout a big freak'n smoke monster, Egyptian statues, a 1800's ship thousands of yards inland, and strange science stations littered around the island protected by a mysterious group of "natives." but largely, the narrative was character driven, so however you watched it, it had to be done with the characters and their connections and relationships in mind.<br />
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</div><div>LOST can't be categorized either. it had everything. " 'Lost' is in a class by itself," ABC's programming chief, Jeff Bader, said this week <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/20/AR2010052003181.html">in this WashingtonPost article</a>. "It is the most successful cult show ever." so what the hell was it about?</div><div><br />
</div><div>I think the show was offering us a big ol' allegory, for everything! The primary one is on how life should be lived. Namely an ongoing effort to understand each other and ourselves and this can only happen to it's fullest when undertaken with a community of people. a plane crashes, people meet up and figure out how the live together. their motto is "live together, die alone." and that was initially in reference to, "live with us and behave, or go out and get killed by a polar bear, the smoke monster, or the Others." but i understand that differently now.</div><div><br />
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yet not alone. we are surrounded by our memories of those who have come before us, and maybe, just maybe, we may find that the exact same people we lived with, already there, waiting on us. at least, that is my hope, some don't believe this, but Lost puts it in there and i like it.</div><div><br />
</div><div>the show was an awesome riff on <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: 19px;"><em style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold;"><a class="l" href="http://www.apokatastasis.org/" style="color: #1111cc; cursor: pointer;">Apokatastasis</a> </em><em style="font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: normal;">as everyone is together and reconsiled at the end. what we know is that there was a plane crash, people survived and lived together for a time. there is also a "side-ways universe" where they meet again and remember the island and everything that happened on it. it turns out that this place of meeting is an after-life, a place to reconnect and remember. and they move on from there.</span></span></em></span></div><div><br />
</div><div>this story gets us to ask many questions, and the questions we ask about "the island" are the exact questions we ask ourselves today. the main three at 1. what is the island? 2. why are they on it? 3. what happens when they leave? this can be translated to 1. what is existence? 2. why are we here? 3. what happens when we die? these are important questions... much like the ones Al raises on <a href="http://al-muses.blogspot.com/2010/05/questions.html">his most recent post.</a><br />
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<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.hecklerspray.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Eyes-JackPilot.jpeg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="110" src="http://www.hecklerspray.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Eyes-JackPilot.jpeg" width="200" /></a></div>i loved the "<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inclusio">inclusio</a>" in the finale. Lost started with an extreme close-up of Jack opening his eye and ended with him closing it. that was a bit of poetry and really stuck with me. great narrative move by the writers.<br />
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I like how this <a href="http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20313460_20388269,00.html">EWonline Article</a> summed it up:<br />
<blockquote>Lost is asking ''what if?'' What if our actions on this planet counted against some eternal reckoning? How does that possibility change things for you? If that possibility does inspire you to live a better life, then... how? And even before then, what is a ''better life''? Is it doing ''good''? But what is ''good''? Lost doesn't have answers for these questions and the others that they raise — it's just demanding that we ask them and discuss them. Together. Are we? Are you? Am I? Do you even have a choice? </blockquote>There is a lot to chew on. There are also many questions left unanswered, some of which aren't really all that important. what is important is the relationships formed during the time these people were alive. they were with each other on the journey, and still are. and they may forever be as far as we know. </div>Lukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.com5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-18440186893225671422010-05-24T16:30:00.001-04:002010-05-24T16:39:17.998-04:00More Orthodox than I look... Thoughts on MarcionI recently <a href="http://toothface.blogspot.com/2010/05/old-find-what-does-old-testament-have.html">posted a paper on the Old Testament</a> and was visited by <a href="http://beosmusings.blogspot.com/">Beowulf</a>, who identifies as a Marcionite. He had some interesting things to say and after researching my books (Abingdon Dictionary of Living Religions, Justo Gonzalez's The Story of Chrsitianity, and Bart Ehrman's The New Testament) as well as looking at his site and claims, I am finding that I'm much more orthodox than i look. Here's how:<br />
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I affirm and intersect with the following historians, all who wrote against Marcion in one way or another:<br />
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<b>Irenaeus of Lyons</b> thought that the crown of creation is humanity, and is a free and responsible being. The purpose of our lives is to enjoy an ever-growing communion with our creator, but on the other hand, the human creature is not made from the beginning in is final perfection. Instead, we are guided by God to become the perfect human which is found in Jesus Christ. God's purpose is to make us ever more like the divine, and thus Genesis was no the goal of creation, just it's beginning. so for Irenaeus, there is a fall, but it is a fall upwards.<br />
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<b>Clement of Alexandria</b> steps up and mixes the Jewish Law with Gentile Philosophy. he is convinced that there is only one truth since God is one and thus would be the truth and the classical philosophers and prophets were one in the same and were pointing to the ultimate truth of God. the texts have more than one meaning and the literal sense, while important, isn't the only way as the meanings beyond the texts that the truly wise must discover. God cannot be described in human words, only in metaphor and in negative terms, and human language can do no more than point to a reality that is beyond its grasp. pretty post-modern for a dude living around 215 CE huh?<br />
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Then up steps <b>Tertullian of Carthage</b>, the heretic hunter and bane of Marcion. he's legalistic and rigid and sets up inflexible doctrines. Anglican Boy would really get a thrill out of this guy's writing cause he's a lawyer, and a really good one at that. so much so that Tertullian despises speculation as he states:<br />
<blockquote>Seek until you find, but once you find, you are to believe. Thereafter, all you have to do is hold to what you have believed. Besides this, you are to believe that there is nothing further to be believed, nor anything else to be sought.</blockquote>Tertullian and i would not have gotten along. however, he's overwhelming in his case the incarnation stating how a suffering God is one unique to the Judeo-Christian scriptures. we are to seek what God as done and not speculate on what God could do or has in store and we can only do this through the use of the Gospel's and what the Gospels rest on, namely the prophets and the OT. he writes that Jesus and the God of Israel are not only one and the same, but the Christian God is the Jewish God and then resorts to saying how Christians now "own" the OT. i don't like that step, but i do like how informed and knowledgeable Tertullian is of midrash, the Talmud, and the rabbinic literature; not something i see too many church father's having, Marcion included.<br />
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In writing against Marcion he askes what good is Marcion's god. The God of the church and the OT made the entire world and all its wonders, whereas Marcion's god has not created a single vegetable.what was Marcion's god doing before the last revelation? Is this love just a quick affair?<br />
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thus it is with this type of inflexible logic and mordant irony that Tertullian writes against Marcion, Praxeas, and Demetritus and becomes the "champion of orthodoxy."<br />
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then up steps <b>Origen of Alexandria </b>who notes that there are more than one creation story in the bible. he focuses specifically on the two in Genesis, which wasn't really a big deal because the Jewish scholars were writing about this long before Origen gets around to it. the spin he puts on it was that the first creation was purely spiritual, and the second physical. Origen found a God who wants us to return to our spiritual home but yet know the pain and joy of a physical life. in the end, we'll all be reunited in universal reconciliation, since God is love. he even goes as far as to state that even Satan will be saved. there will be judgment, but more in the fact that we must admit that we haven't lived up to our higher ideals, that our potential wasn't fully reached. afterall, Jesus' first call was for us to "repent and believe the kingdom was close at hand." he expounds beautifully on that, where as Marcion had no judgment at all in his theology.<br />
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whereas Marcion had a profound dislike towards both Judaism and the material world and thus developed an understanding of Christianity that was both anti-Jewish and anti-material (Gonzalez 61). Jesus had some hidden knowledge or revelation that showed that his God was a God of love whereas the Jewish God was a God of Justice-and arbitrary justice at that. He sought to establish a benevolent God where no acts of genocide, war, or choosing one group over another are attributed to him. just as the fundamentalists decry today, you can't pick and choose, and thus the OT was the word of an inferior god and should not be read nor used as the basis for Christian instruction. Paul and Luke became the core message of Jesus' life; yet even then Marcion rejected or radically reinterpreted the doctrines of creation, incarnation and resurrection; namely Jesus appeared as a grown man during the reign of Tiberius, there is no judgement in his message, and God is absolutely loving and offers free grace. sounds an awful lot like J. Denny Weaver, James Allison, and other adherents to nonviolent atonement.<br />
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Marcion may have been onto something, but questions of theodicy are never so easily solved. he seems to miss the "more-than-literal" readings that both Origen and Clement spoke about. he dismisses the incarnation with a docetic model. he is anti-semetic (not that Tertullian or many of the church fathers weren't) but worse, he's anti-material. no love of human emotions or urges has he, he makes Augustine look like a hedonist.<br />
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what i read in Beo's writings as well as other "reconstructionist" movements like the Toltec, Gnostic, and Hellenistic writings is a desire to do away with the bad parts of history, and pick out only the good. to say "that wasn't me" and not allow oneself to be implicated in history. but you are. like it or not, if you're white in the US, you're condemned for slavery. if you're male, sexism. if Christian, crusades and "slash-and-burn" fundamentalism. we're not pure. not ever.<br />
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<div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"> it's no secret that people use all sorts of crap to justify their bad behavior or exploitive practices. God and reason, religion and science are all co-opted to betray our best intentions. </div><div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><br />
</div><div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;">this is humanity. it's flawed. we're strange and dangerous and we hurt each other. but this is our doing. the desire to hide the nakedness of our greed and our natures in "polite" society on serves to veil the brutal facts of human life from itself. the inevitable hypocrisy which is associated with all collective activities of the human race, springs chiefly from this source: that individuals have a moral code which makes the actions of collective humanity an outrage to their conscience.</div><div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><br />
</div><div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;">i think it's in the OT that we get the best insights into the outrage of the human character as well as our surprising redemptive and altruistic intentions. we get stories of resistance and subversive communal living within the limitations of all that it means to be human. of which, Jesus is grounded in and exemplifies. one without the other doesn't work, IMO. </div></div>Lukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.com26tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-34264642510525365562010-05-20T11:59:00.000-04:002010-05-20T11:59:00.322-04:00World Religions Final Part Three<b>Ethics </b><br />
Can we claim which paths are rabbit trails or authentic? This seems to be the primary concern of the mega-church. A quick test is to look at the measure of love of God, neighbor or self. But how could we really with any integrity? It would be like a climber speaking with authority about paths on the other side of the mountain that he has never been on. The climber may read about these paths in books or have talked to another climber on that particular side. This then, would prove to the climber that all paths seem to be heading to the same place. But any serious climber knows that only those who have climbed the path can speak with authority about where it leads and how it gets there. Once again, to say that there are "other mountains" is a poly-mountain idea and I'm only talking in a mono-mountain context. Nor is it good to assume that all are going up. Taoism seems to state that we should be content with where we are an interact naturally and non-utilitarian with our contexts and those we find in it. The Abrahamic faiths are the ones that seem most concerned about getting to the top and pondering what’s up there. The point being, we should listen to one another and hear what they have to say about their journey.<br />
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If people of other faiths want to swap faithful stories of their path and journey up the mountain, then great! In fact, I get a better handle on my faith when I hear these stories. If people of other faiths with whom we are in dialog decide to convert to our path as a result of this sharing, fine! However, conversion is not the ultimate purpose here of interfaith dialogue, sharing the joy and wisdom gleaned from our climbing experience is.<br />
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<b>All We Have Is Metaphor </b><br />
Religions are like art, poetry, not science. It is after spiritual truths and seeking the best way to live, one that is in tune with a wider and more transcendent reality. I don’t know what to call this, so throughout this paper I have called it God, even though I recognize that other religions don’t have this concept. All we really have is metaphor to describe this experience. Hell, that’s all we have to describe anything! The word apple isn’t the essence of the little red/green/gold thing that grows on trees.<br />
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I'm reminded on a Joseph Campbell story about a tribe in Australia whose social order was maintained with the aid of bullroarers which are long flat boards with a couple of slits cut in them and a rope tied at one end. They are swung around over one's head and the low humming sound is other worldly. When the gods were angry the men of the tribe would sound the bullroarers in the woods at night. No one in the tribe knew this of course. The males of the tribe would explain why the gods were angry and what behavior had to change. In the initiation rite of young men into manhood in the tribe is very violent and bloody. Its culmination is the revelation to the boy by the chief priest of "We make the noises."<br />
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I believe we do. The noises we make are us trying to attach meaning to the experience of living. Most noises are self-generated and self-interpreted in this model and it seems to be about control. I have no interest in this. My future ministry will be about trying to get behind the buzz of the bullroars and experience the true sounds of the world. Sometimes God is in the thunderstorm, or earthquake, but often God is in the nothing. Just a still small voice in the wilderness. My ministry will be trying to get behind the feedback and attach some meaning to the shared existence of the community I will serve based on the tradition we come out of, namely Christianity. I also naturally tend to look at the similarities between not only my denomination and act ecumenically, but also bring in interfaith dialog. I base this on the shear fact that I share this existence on this planet and it could have been otherwise.<br />
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We are made of stardust and tied to the universe. Life on earth is very linked and interconnected. Authoritative claims take away this connection and the church has been a large part of this. So this leads me to think that there's something behind it all... some higher order behind the chaos. I call this something God. Which leads me to a different take on the incarnation: What if we are the incarnated universe trying to figure itself out?<br />
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So with that in mind we're called to wrestle and figure it out not make super vague claims like "Jesus is the answer PERIOD" like the mega-church would say. Nor say "There is no god, objective empiricism is the only way to go" like the stalwart atheists do. We are not objective, and while we may have some access to the facts, our brains can’t connect them all as we are very limited. There is an emotional and spiritual side that must be accounted for and atheists often miss this or don’t put enough emphasis on it.<br />
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We humans are making noises to try to understand the infinite. We are putting up boundaries on something that cannot be bound and what we place there should only be looked through into the grand divine. I too will look for wisdom where I find it whether in Taoist, Buddhist, Islamic, or one of the other of the world’s great religions. The way I see it, Jesus taught from somewhere between 1 and 3 years. The records we have are spotty at best and completely spun or even fabricated toward a particular editorial slant at worst. Jesus didn’t and couldn’t have taught a comprehensive view and this becomes apparent when Christianity is compared to the vast teachings of the Buddha’s 40 year career.<br />
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What I do know is that religion can make all the dogmas and doctrines it wants, the divine won't be contained. It's knocking over fences, crossing property lines. I am compelled to follow.Lukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.com8tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-79800166122874757662010-05-19T11:58:00.001-04:002010-05-19T11:58:00.456-04:00World Religions Final Part Two<b>Views of God </b><br />
What I now see this dispute boiling down to is a fundamental disagreement on the nature of God. There are at least two different concepts for thinking about God, and both are found in the Bible and the Christian tradition. The first conceptualizes God as a supernatural being “out there” and separate from the world. This being created the world a long time ago and who may from time to time intervene within it, but largely is absent. This doesn’t keep God from demanding conformity and adherence to the Law passed down in the holy writ. In important sense this God is far and distant from our shores, is unchanging and can be fully known and experienced directly but only if the belief is correct and mediated by some hierarchy or holy writ or tradition. This is the God of Supernatural Theism. It is widespread within the Christian tradition and found also in Judaism and Islam, and could it be the majority thought of those who think about God (both believers and non). Some accept the existence of such a being, and some reject it but it is the notion of God as a supernatural being “out there” that is being accepted or rejected. I think that this first notion of God is nice, and served us well but belief in this style of God must be done away with as it cannot serve and only brings harm. It is Biblical yes, but not all of the Bible presents this vision of God. This idea of God is what I hear when conservatives speak. Deconverts from the faith, atheists and agnostics, who I’ve talked to state this model as the type of God they don’t believe in… and neither to I.<br />
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The second concept of God in the Christian tradition is quite different. God is the encompassing’ Spirit: we and everything’ that is be in God. God is not “out there” separate from the universe but rather; God is a nonmaterial layer or level or dimension of reality all around us. God is more than the universe yet the universe is in God. This is the concept of God called “panentheism.” God’s self-revelation is given and received in an earthly, worldly, human way. God is never directly present to us in self-revelation, and no one ever had a direct, personal relationship with God. God comes to us and we can know God only indirectly. It is in this indirect way that we come to know and enter into a personal relationship with God. God’s being is so different from our humanity, yet God is in us and through us, so all that we see and all that we are all parts of God yet God is bigger than the sum of all. We also know that people yearn to see God’s face and have some irrefutable evidence, like Moses and even the disciples of Christ, but “No one can see My face and live” God says to Moses and Jesus says “If you have seen me, you have seen my Father.”<br />
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Panentheism implies that God is not just close, but in and through everything. We are a part of God, yet God is still separate. God is with us and daily bears our burdens and yet is transcendent. God is with us and in us, in our midst when we pray alone with the doors shut or when two or more are gathered. There is no line between sacred and secular just like at the end of the Gospel of Mark where the curtain is torn in the temple, signifying a God which can’t be boxed, can’t be contained, and in and through all of creation. Therefore I affirm the omnipresence of God, but not the omnipotence of God. I think omnipotence of God was a bad move made in the 14th century by medieval theologians. This raises all sorts of pointless questions like “Can God create a rock so big God can’t lift it?” Instead, I prefer to view God as “omnipotentiality.” This view can be found in Exodus 3:14, right when Moses asks God for God’s name and gets the reply of “YHWH.” This has many possible meanings and for me, they are all true. YHWH could mean “I AM HE WHO IS", “HE WHO CAUSES TO BE,”"I AM WHO AM" or "I AM WHAT I AM" or “I will be what I will become.”<br />
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In Exodus 31, Moses asks to see the face of God. God tells Moses to crawl into a cave and God will put ‘his’ hand over the opening and Moses will be able to “See my behind.” This is a literal translation of the Hebrew. A deeper translation would be, “you will see where I was.” Not even Moses could see God in the present. This is a God we get only glimpses of. These highly personal encounters are still filled with mystery and, although we may experience God’s love, justice, spirit, or forgiveness directly, we should never take it for the totality of God.<br />
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<b>Communities of God </b><br />
Community is a big deal in both Testaments and in all of the world religions we studied this semester. Religions seek to answer the question “how then shall we live?” and each comes up with a different answer as they also define a different problem that spawns that question. Christianity sees that humans have fallen out of relationship with God and need to change it while Buddhism sees the problem as suffering caused by desire from grasping at a world that isn’t there. Taoists see people who are out of tune with their own natures and Islam sees humanity as not being in submission with the will of God. All of these are plausible answers, and depending on how one’s community views life and the problems associated with it, they will use different language to articulate this. I note how each religion never comes out and states that the fundamental problem with the world is that everyone is not like us. It is nowhere in the founding documents or speeches of various religious movements. Islam comes the closest with talk of putting infidels to the sword but they have grace with the “people of the book.” There is a difference between missional and imperial. But what happens when people don’t adopt your faith? What happens when religions come into conflict?<br />
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Many Christians, like the mega-church, seek to save people from the fires of hell and feel they do so out of love. However, many of their actions are imperial, which is the very notion I view Jesus as fighting against. Jesus fought against the imperial actions of the Roman Empire as well as a more localized system which dehumanized its own members, namely the Temple System. What I view Jesus teaching primarily, is that there is no such thing as a personal relationship with God without a personal relationship with our fellow human beings.<br />
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The driving force behind Christian colonialism is John 14:6. This verse is interpreted as: "I am the (only) way, the (only) truth, and the (only) life, no one (absolutely no one) comes to the Father/God, except through me (by believing specific beliefs that are Christian ).” I liked what we learned in class, that through a panentheistic and Trinitarian view, this verse becomes:<br />
"God is the way, the truth and the life, no one gets to God except through God."<br />
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Jesus isn't calling for these sheep to change shepherds; he is trying to get us to recognize that the human family is one flock, with one shepherd. What he is NOT saying is "different strokes for different folks" nor is he saying "anyone can worship the god of one's choice, it's all good, no matter what." Which faiths? They aren't identified. We may surmise that faiths that truly follow the one Shepherd actively promote the love of God, neighbor, and self as Jesus did. Jesus also states that people shouldn't worry about what path others are on. He demonstrates time and time again throughout the Gospels for his disciples to concentrate on walking their own path and offering hospitality to those they meet on along the way. The Good Samaritan parable is the core here image here with answering the question of “who is my neighbor?” with a big and surprising “EVERYONE!”<br />
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So given this, it is naive for a practitioner of any faith to claim that theirs is the only "true" path. Religions do this to garner power over those too fearful to think in this way. Now there is a difference between best path for a person to take, so long as this claim is on an individual level or at the very most a tribal level. Becoming deeply rooted in the tradition of the tribe, one is then able to act in a more universal way, as they have a strong sense of identity and are not threatened by other beliefs outside their experience. It is also my hope that these people investigate other religions and not just for the sake of putting their own faith above it or gathering apologetic fodder. There's no shame in this and in fact it leads to a better understanding of our fellow persons. My childhood priest was a Jesuit and stated that one of the best ways you can know your faith is to encounter another. We can see how our faith takes a unique approach to problems and how these intersect, conflict with, or can even be informed by another faith.Lukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.com10tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-43459168272204372822010-05-18T07:54:00.002-04:002010-05-18T07:54:00.634-04:00World Religions Final<i>this paper was written this year but explores two old posts on the blog. the first being </i><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, Verdana, 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><h3><a href="http://toothface.blogspot.com/2007/12/can-there-be-one-way-to-god.html" style="color: #333333;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><i>Can there be one way to God?</i></span></a><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><i> and the second </i></span><a href="http://toothface.blogspot.com/2007/12/to-clarify-mountain.html" style="color: #333333;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><i>To Clarify the Mountain</i></span></a><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><i> here is my updated take on it, posted over three days. please check back!</i></span></h3><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><i><div align="center" class="MsoNoSpacing" style="text-align: center;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">World Religions Final<o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNoSpacing"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNoSpacing" style="line-height: 200%;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 200%;"><span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: black; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium; font-style: normal; line-height: normal;">I am writing this paper on how I will use what I learned in the world religions class in my future ministry. I will have to get creative here as I have always planned on using world religions in my future ministry, specifically Buddhism. The purpose of this paper is to explore how my views of world religions have changed. This paper will be a conversation with my past-self, based on two blog posts I wrote at the beginning of seminary.<br />
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The blog post was written on 12/11/07 after reading about how Christianity is the best religion and how ONLY Christianity has the truth. It was written by the pastor of a mega-church my sister was attending. My sister asked me for my thoughts and I responded. It is a rather long post, so I will just hit the highlights in this paper and then see how I relate to it today, after taking my world religion’s class. I will then conclude by how I intend to use world religions in my future ministry.<br />
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<b>The Mountain Metaphor </b><br />
The mega-church attacked the “mountain metaphor.” The metaphor states that major world religions are like hikers climbing up different sides of a mountain. Each tradition has discovered a unique route for reaching the top. In the case of Christianity and others, they have found a new route off of another (Judaism) established way up the mountain. Now while these hikers are climbing, they cannot necessarily see one another. Individuals within the climbing parties may not even be aware that others are ascending the mountain as they may think they are making the ascent alone. Yet when they reach the top, the climbers are surprised to find one another. Each party has reached the same goal by a different route. I added the caveat to the metaphor that each path adds its own boundaries which define the path, thus taking a deontological ethical view of the groups and stating that all unethical routes cannot reach the top.<br />
</span></span></span></span></div><div class="MsoNoSpacing" style="line-height: 200%;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 200%;"><span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: black; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium; font-style: normal; line-height: normal;">The mega-church claimed that this was religious relativism and that not all paths were seeking the top nor defining the top in any way that could be widely agreed upon so, they concluded, it obviously meant that there are different mountains. It is the Christian mountain that is of the most importance as the other mountains were false or didn’t reach as high. I argued back on the basis of relativism is a scientific fact, but now I see the metaphor differently. I still view relativism as an important factor but that was not the basis I should have argued on. I should have argued on the basis of what the mountain represents. In my understanding, the mountain symbolizes earth. All of the different faiths are all on the same mountain and they must learn to get along or the mountain will quickly become an unhappy place. There is an assumption that there is only one mountain since if things were not going well, people could simply find another mountain to be on; one free of the group that troubles them. I would love to find a mountain free of religious fundamentalists; however, this is not the case. Seeing as all the hikers are on the same mountain it presupposes that there is only one context in that the metaphor can operate. We can’t go to another planet; we are forced to figure out how to peacefully coexist with other faiths.<br />
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The mega-church countered that the roads are on different mountains as they lead in fundamentally different directions and end on completely different summits. They went so far as to state the summits are different (false) gods. I found it ironic that a Christian church would try this route as this argument by its very nature is polytheistic. There is no accounting for anthropological and theological evolution and history. The argument doesn't take into effect agnostic or “atheistic” faiths like Buddhism or Taoism which do indeed have many deities, but no overarching “creator” of the ultimate. The church also didn’t take into account the gods that came before the Jewish God was ever thought of. By that same argument, we then would still be on the losing side of the argument as our Christian God is actually the Jewish God in three parts which somehow equal one.<br />
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I asked in the post as to whether God would allow for different routes, each with its own integrity. A Buddhist may find a way to the top through withdrawal from the world, while a Christian may find it through immersion into the world on behalf of justice. Wouldn't God be in both places if God is everywhere and created everything? The church stated no, there can be only one right way, and that way is the “narrow way” of Jesus. I countered that the routes up the mountain engage different terrain, with different obstacles and challenges, different vistas, and different places of rest. This fact illustrates that God's plan for the world is larger than our human minds can comprehend. Despite significant differences of approach to God, we are all included in God's love, which exceeds beyond our wildest imagination.<br />
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My view then and now accounts that God would only speak to people in a language that they would understand, using images pulled from their natural context. In that sense, God is relative. It would make no sense if Jesus came and talked about germ theory or the placebo effect while he was healing people as it would make no sense to them. He, taking the view that Jesus is indeed divine somehow, would have to talk about disease-as-demonic-possession as that is how people in the context understood disease. Maybe he did talk about germ theory and such but because the eye-witnesses had no idea what he was talking about and so it didn’t make it to the Gospels but that is my speculation.</span></span></span></span></div></i></span></div></span>Lukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.com10tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-27889928780655910402010-05-15T00:50:00.001-04:002010-05-15T00:50:00.140-04:00GRADUATION!<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjbhb-PU1cyIDXhMaRMXKmBEXkTzMsVSTV38VqkYj5ZgPWcmATczO-OV9oYkkK6Wu9xOKRsiGLaIgjAToIWvFSOCtvh587viyi3tiPZSG4ZSFIfJhOGu2gPB6xfXWgSwdm7QKHl/s1600/scan0015+copy.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjbhb-PU1cyIDXhMaRMXKmBEXkTzMsVSTV38VqkYj5ZgPWcmATczO-OV9oYkkK6Wu9xOKRsiGLaIgjAToIWvFSOCtvh587viyi3tiPZSG4ZSFIfJhOGu2gPB6xfXWgSwdm7QKHl/s320/scan0015+copy.jpg" /></a></div><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: xx-large;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;">After three years, today is the day!</span></span>Lukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.com8tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-51224221480584004212010-05-13T08:42:00.000-04:002010-05-13T08:42:00.303-04:00An Old Find: What does the Old Testament have to offer the Church/Individual<div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left;"><i>written May 5, 2008, from my second semester. I thought it would be cool to post something from the end of my first year here to see how i match up with it at the end of my last year. surprisingly, i still agree! enjoy!</i></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"><b><br />
</b></div><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"><b>Discussion Paper: What does the Old Testament have to offer the Church/Individual?<o:p></o:p></b></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div>The Old Testament has much to offer the church and humanity in general. This paper will first define what the Old Testament is, make a modern parallel and then explain what it has to offer the modern reader.<br />
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The Old Testament is a collection of theological myths and stories from the Israelite nation. These are historical books but not histories. The writers of these stories are reflecting on their history and trying to find both reasons and God’s role in their events. What then could we compare this to? Surely nothing in our modern context would be like this as we’re concerned with facts, not myths!<br />
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But we are. I think my first book will be called, <i>The Bible of America; Holy Myths and Fiction of American History</i>. From George Washington chopping down a cherry tree, to the life of a cowboy, we are steeped in myth and urban legends. Stories like Paul Bunyan, Johnny Appleseed, John Henry, Calamity Jane and Annie Oakley are American myths. These characters are told to us in our childhood and teach us about what our country holds dear. These stories do have a historical basis, but the myths and folklore add to that basis and bring out what is true about America. We even have myths about our founding fathers! Stories of Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson and John Adams abound, even though we have their original letters that dispel many of these myths. The Old Testament does this same thing for the nation of the Israelites.<br />
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The stories we hold tell a lot about us. The fact that we hold stories shows that we’re not too far removed from our ancient brothers and sisters. We try to make sense of the world through stories. Reading the Old Testament this year has shown me that we have some very similar concerns and reactions to our day to day living. The concerns are the same: how to raise a family, how to live “right”, what concerns are worth having, what cultural identity means, will our culture be over run by another and such like. The expressions of those concerns are what separate us from our ancient brothers and sisters. There is also word choice (Bible is patriarchic and largely misogynist), context (we have the internet and are not farmers, etc), history (we Americans were the underdog but now are the empire, Israeli’s were largely the underdog), and other such matters that separate us as well, but the similarities are still amazing to behold.<br />
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Some look at the Old Testament and say it only supports the New. I can see the argument here but remind those supporters that the New was written with the Old in mind, not the other way around. Some look at it and see a culture rife with violence and sexism. Turning on American TV, I see the same thing. Our culture is just as violent as theirs, if not more so. Others would say that these people are barbaric and legalistic. I would counter that the complexities of our laws vastly out-weigh the TANAK’s "legalism." We are just as much victims of circumstance as they are. Some look at it and see a bunch of stories with no facts. I would say that the facts don’t always hold the truth. When we see the connection between our ancestors and our modern context, we are engaged in a holy activity. We recognize our connection to the past in hopes of figuring out our future. We are then able to see God’s work in both.Lukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.com35tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-72280359992506155202010-05-11T07:42:00.000-04:002010-05-11T07:42:00.275-04:00LTS Senior Skit<object height="344" style="background-image: url(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/t1Mbd5YIq0Q/hqdefault.jpg);" width="425"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/t1Mbd5YIq0Q&hl=en_US&fs=1"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/t1Mbd5YIq0Q&hl=en_US&fs=1" width="425" height="344" allowscriptaccess="never" allowfullscreen="true" wmode="transparent" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"></embed></object><br />
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here is our senior skit, i'm in there a few times. it was written by my good friend KT (the narrator) and really gives a flavor of our seminary. lots of inside jokes, but still some good stuff. enjoy!Lukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-1769242553117412262010-05-05T07:17:00.000-04:002010-05-05T07:17:00.881-04:00I dunno, but it has something to to with race.<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjFYpz-gifpXfvpMDfovkj51cTL-O1I3b4f5ER985UER3DyzX1-ofnyfOVvJr-Gsk7B0zq10Sy1fuiezH1CO0ei1sH-7ELYoJ3XNDVrrh-qdzQ3NiBOe-O3egq30k2VKqDpslbf/s1600/julyaug060071.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjFYpz-gifpXfvpMDfovkj51cTL-O1I3b4f5ER985UER3DyzX1-ofnyfOVvJr-Gsk7B0zq10Sy1fuiezH1CO0ei1sH-7ELYoJ3XNDVrrh-qdzQ3NiBOe-O3egq30k2VKqDpslbf/s320/julyaug060071.JPG" width="0" /></a></div>I was walking my Sonny and Eve just the other day and something strange happened. i'm used to it. i get into strange conversations all the time and have random encounters walking around Lancaster. It's really quite fun and interesting! this recent encounter was not fun but it is interesting. first, some set up:<br />
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my dog Sonny is a 75lb greyhound who is really friendly. often when we're walking around he does this little side-to-side dance and pulls up his teeth in a "friendly smile." many people are put off by this as Sonny forgets that 2" fangs aren't endearing to humans. he's frightened many people on our walks so i try to avoid this as much as possible on our walks.<br />
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which brings me to our story for today: i was walking down the street and saw an African-American woman on her cell-phone sitting on some steps to my right. I notice Sonny start into his little "YAY! PEOPLE!" greeting dance and decide to push him over so he's walking on the curb, well away from the woman who is chatting away, facing the opposite direction. the last thing i wanted was her to turn around into a giant, gapping dawg maw. i mean do you really wanna turn and see THIS?! --><br />
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so i pass the woman and hear her say something, but figure it's to the person who she's on the phone with. I walk a few more steps and she says, "I'm TALKING to you!" I glance back over my shoulder and she's staring right at me. I'm a bit shocked. so i say, "I'm sorry, I thought you were on the phone, you were talking to me?"<br />
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she states into her phone, "I'm gonna have to call you back." then to me, "Yeah. I SAID you too good to share the sidewalk with a black person?!"<br />
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i'm befuddled. i'm confused. i'm shocked. i don't get it. so i said, "Umm... no. I just didn't want him to startle you, you were on the phone after al..."<br />
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She cuts in "WELL YOU THINK ALL BLACK PEOPLE ARE AFRAID OF DOGS?"<br />
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"?" my face says as I'm literally too stunned for words.... "I...."<br />
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"That is a stereotype you know." she states.<br />
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"Well... every black person I know has a dog save for one family, but they just moved in. That doesn't make any sense..." i reply.<br />
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"MMMM-HMMM.." She states with a head-wiggle and an angry look on her face.<br />
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i pause, she still looks pissed, i feel my flight-response kick in and i say, "well, i'm sorry for the offense. I didn't mean anything. you take care now." and i walk away.<br />
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i read in YES! magazine how one youth program that focuses on race actually had to teach the youth the stereotypes so that they could then teach them how to overcome them. i thought this was really stupid and backwards, but after this encounter i think they might be right.<br />
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how would you responded? what was going on here? any insights? helpful responses?Lukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.com9tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-53969603364286894122010-05-04T06:58:00.000-04:002013-08-21T15:09:45.566-04:00The Christology of John 10:11-15recently i posted <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, Verdana, 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-weight: bold;"><a href="http://toothface.blogspot.com/2010/04/christological-categories.html" style="color: #333333; font-weight: normal;">Christological Categories</a> </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, Verdana, 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif; font-size: 15px;">and now i would like to show how these would go together while reading the bible. This is taken from my paper for class, i hope it shows how to use these categories as a means of interpretation.</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 200%;">The purpose of this paper is to explore the Christology in the passage of <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2010:11-15&version=NIV">John 10: 11-15.</a> I will explain how I will be reading this passage, what the basic image of Jesus is in the passage and how it makes me feel. I will then determine what doctrines of the atonement and person of Christ that would be compatible with this image.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 200%;">The method of exploring this scripture is a new one for me since coming to seminary. I will be operating on a purely subjective methodology that will focus solely on the image presented and my reactions to it. This means no looking into the literary analysis or putting the text through the critical method. I will be operating on a purely subjective methodology that will focus solely on the image presented and my reactions to it. This is to help focus my thoughts and feelings in a Lectio Divina style meditation on this passages and what associations it brings up to the readings that were assigned for class.</span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 200%;"><span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>On my first reading of the passage, I felt secure, taken care of. I would hope to be in this flock and that I would be protected by this shepherd. Then I started thinking “What the hell kind of shepherd is this?! I don’t want the shepherd to die for the sheep; I want him to beat the snot out of the wolf with his crooked stick! Where was he during the wolf attack? Does he not interview well if the hired help runs away? Doesn’t seem like a good shepherd to me!” Then I started noticing the details of the story and image.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 200%;"><span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>Jesus is not just a shepherd but a “good” one. There is a hired hand there but he had no ownership of the sheep and ran away when trouble started. Jesus not only owns the sheep but cares for them as well. This suggests that Jesus is more than “just” a shepherd but THE shepherd, as this is a popular description of God and God’ relationship with Israel. The flock is scattered and a wolf has attacked, apparently not while the “good shepherd” was around but instead when the hired hand was around, who allowed the attack to happen and ran off to save his own hide. Unlike that hired hand, the good shepherd will lay down his life, meaning he may lose, but he will fight to the death. It doesn’t say that the shepherd will win against the wolf or that the flock will be brought together, but there is a sense of commitment and relationship between the sheep and shepherd. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 200%;"><span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span><span class="apple-style-span">Jesus criticizes the Pharisees just before this passage for not being good leaders and bringing great harm to the people. Jesus condemns them as bad shepherds – shepherds who hurt the flock. </span></span><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 200%; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">The Pharisees then, according the author of John, were these cowardly shepherds who wanted the wage but were unwilling to pay the price.</span><span style="line-height: 200%; mso-bidi-font-size: 8.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"> </span><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 200%;">I am taking ministerial ethics and this reminds me about spiritual abuse and how to cope with the damage spiritual leaders can leave. These abuses come from self-serving pastors with bad boundaries, or boundaries that only serve themselves. A spiritual leader who’s looking out for him or herself will not make sacrifices because it costs them something. It would be akin to a pastor getting rave reviews and having the people feel that they are cared for, but at the first sign of an external threat, like a financial crisis the pastor splits. Jesus isn’t looking out for himself, he’s looking out for us and so he makes sacrifices that cost him everything.<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 200%;"><span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>When I understand the phrase in that context with those considerations, I am more open to it. I feel safe or at least safer in comparison to the hired hand</span></span><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 200%;">. A tragedy has befallen the flock, a traditional metaphor for Israel and the leadership that was around at the time was not enough and proved to be self-serving. The owner is now gathering the flock and repairing the harmed caused. I imagine Christ as a shepherd knowing each of his sheep by name, checking each sheep at the end of the day, inspecting and bandaging all the places where they are wounded. He remembers that and comes back to check and mend as often as they need it. This image is one of total care and protection.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 200%;"><span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>John 10 is a sacrificial model. It is pretty straight forward as it is said twice that the “The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep” (15:11,15). To whom or to what and why is uncertain. Presumably to the wolf or maybe the whole life is spent tending to the sheep, and therefore that is what is meant by laying down one’s life. It could be said that pastors lay down their life for the wider church as that is what they will spend most of their life doing. In this understanding, postal carriers would lay down their lives for the delivery of mail to use another example. This would be akin to someone who would dedicate their life (give up in a sense) to a cause, like <u>Saving Private Ryan</u>, for example. I do not think that is what the passage is directly point to, although it is part of it. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 200%;"><span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>The problem is not that humanity needs to be bought back from someone nor that victory will be gained over the wolf. The sheep are the victims in the story as those who were hired to watch over the flock did not. The model fits with the “Classical” model <w:sdt citation="t" id="225169032"><!--[if supportFields]><span
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<span style="font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 200%;">What is the broader context? Where exactly is the lawn? What lies beyond the picture’s margins? We have no idea. The threat of war may loom. Troops may be on the move. Economic recession may have gripped the nation. Yet here, frozen by the artist, is an image of personal security and acceptance. Whatever the context may be, this child is enfolded and protected. She is loved, accepted and wanted (9). <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 200%;">This is the same feeling I get from the passage. The people are experiencing their religious leaders as out for themselves, they feel taken advantage of, scattered and divided and used. Yet here is Jesus saying that they are wanted and that they belong to his flock and harm will not befall them again as he will lay it all on the line. In fact, Jesus is the ideal shepherd much like the images of God that can be found in Ezekiel as well as many Psalms (most notably Psalm 23). This would seem to point to the atonement theory of Anselm.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 200%;"><span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>In Anselm’s theory, a new relationship is forged between God and the world and it is God who acts as both the reconciler and the reconciled <w:sdt citation="t" id="52511954"><!--[if supportFields]><span style='mso-element:field-begin'></span><span
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<span style="font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 200%;"> In John's understanding, God has come down and seeks to put together what humankind has torn apart. Jesus as the Shepherd, namely God, points to either an Antiochen or Alexandrian view of Christ. With Jesus using shepherd imagery and that image being closely linked to God, I believe rules out Ebionism. The reference to Jesus dying for the flock rules out Docetism as a bodily death must happen. Given that God tends the flock and would be an ideal shepherd, I believe this points more to an Alexandrian understanding than an Antiochen as the divinity of Christ would be the governing principle. The Antiochen model divides up the actions of humanity and divinity, so speaking about being a shepherd would be very human, but the long tradition of God as shepherd leads me to regard the divinity dominating the humanity of Jesus in this statement. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 200%;"><span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span>The image in John is one of safety and security. It is one of gathering and reconciliation out of the love God has for his sheep. Jesus seeks to do what the religious authorities could not do (and what the Zealot, Essene, and Rabbinic movements also claimed). However, the image doesn't fully get the job done. So I do have another interpretation of this image if I take into account that the wolf could be a symbol for Rome. </span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 200%;"> In the myth of Romulus and Remus, a she-wolf suckles the boys who go on to found Rome. In this understanding, Jesus is protecting the flock, namely the simple agrarian farmers of the Galilee from the Romans since the Temple authorities could not protect from oppression and invasion. Jesus will give up his life for the flock while the hired hands run away. There is no concept or reference of the resurrection in this statement, although given the rest of John’s gospel it is implied in the narrative arch. This understanding is plausible as well yet changes the atonement model from sacrificial to the empathic model, where Jesus provides a powerfully moving manifestation of the extent and depth of God’s love for humanity <w:sdt citation="t" id="52511958"><!--[if supportFields]><span
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style='mso-element:field-end'></span><![endif]--></w:sdt>. The Christology remains Alexandrian in terms, as the image of God as Shepherd is too strong to be ignored. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 200%;"><span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 200%;">I have explored two possible meanings for the image presented in John 10. I am normally drawn to Jesus as political revolutionary but challenged myself to explore another mode of interpretation. I find that both fit in this instance. While I prefer the political revolutionary, I see how the Christus Victor model cannot be avoided here due to the Gospel of John’s view that everything Jesus says or does is somehow related to his death. The laying down of the life can be interpreted as Jesus willing to go and fight and sacrifice himself for the good of the flock or due to the fact that he knows that Rome will kill him for his words and desire to unite the flock against the imperial colonizers. Reading with both images in mind help provide a fuller understanding of how people can approach the same text and come away with different thoughts and feelings. This paper was fun to write and was a useful exercise. It has helped me respect the different Christologies.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>BIBLIOGRAPHY <span style='mso-element:field-separator'></span><![endif]--><span style="mso-no-proof: yes;">Aulen, Gustaf. <u>Christus Victor: A Historical Study of the Three Main Types of the Idea of Atonement.</u> Eugene Oregon: WIPF & Stock, 1931.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="mso-no-proof: yes;">Barrett, Lee. "Theories of Atonement (The Work of Christ)." <u>Class Handout</u> (March 22, 2010).<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="mso-no-proof: yes;">McGrath, Alister. <u>Redemption.</u> Minneapolis: Fortress Press, 2006.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Lukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.com6tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-89949226370865416442010-05-01T08:25:00.000-04:002010-05-01T08:25:00.297-04:00What We Could Be...<object height="385" width="640"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/zlfKdbWwruY&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/zlfKdbWwruY&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object><br />
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<i>why we're not:</i><br />
<br />
<b>What Should We Do About that Moon?</b> by Hafiz<br />
<br />
A wine bottle fell from a wagon and broke open in a field.<br />
<br />
that night one hundred beetles and all their cousins gathered.<br />
<br />
and did some serious binge drinking.<br />
<br />
They even found some seed husks nearby<br />
and began to play them like drums and whirl.<br />
This made God very happy.<br />
<br />
Then the "night candle" rose into the sky<br />
and one drunk creature, laying down his instrument,<br />
said to his friend--for no apparent reason,<br />
<br />
"What should we do about that moon?"<br />
<br />
Seems to Hafiz<br />
most everyone has laid aside the music<br />
<br />
tackling such profoundly useless questions.<br />
<br />
<b>Some Thoughts</b><br />
let's take today and just be silly. try not to be offended, laugh instead. crank the radio before dinner and have a dance party and invite others to dance with you. friend and family will think you have lost your mind, but they will soon join in and remember the taste of what it means to be alive and outside of expected routine.<br />
<br />
don't worry, the world won't fall apart while you're doing this.<br />
<br />
there will still be bigots, racists, fundamentalists, and they won't take over while your guard is down.<br />
<br />
there will still be flowers, trees, coo'n babies, and other good things too, they won't go away during this time.<br />
<br />
so dance! dance and be silly and enjoy the absurdity of life and it's preciousness. who knows? maybe this time will make it more so.Lukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.com4tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-23333079230688060432010-04-29T07:22:00.000-04:002010-04-29T11:26:40.698-04:00The Tao Te Ching and God: THE MUSICAL!Tao Te Ching, Ron Hogan Translations:<br />
<br />
<div><b>#4</b> How much Tao is there?<br />
More than you'll ever need.<br />
Use as much as you want,<br />
there's plenty more where that came from.<br />
<br />
You can't see Tao, but it's there.<br />
Damned if I know where it came from.<br />
It's just always been around.<br />
<br />
<b>#14</b>: You can't see Tao, no matter how hard you look.<br />
You can't hear Tao, no matter how hard you listen.<br />
You can't hold on to Tao, no matter how hard you grab.<br />
<br />
But it's there.<br />
<br />
It's in you,<br />
and it's all around you.<br />
<br />
Remember that.<br />
<br />
<b>#25:</b> Something perfect has existed forever,<br />
even longer than the universe.<br />
It's a vast, unchanging void.<br />
There's nothing else like it.<br />
It goes on forever and never stops.<br />
Everything else came from it.<br />
<br />
I don't know what else to call it<br />
So I'll call it Tao.<br />
What's it like?<br />
I can tell you this much: it's great.<br />
<br />
Something that great lasts.<br />
Something that lasts goes a long way.<br />
And something that goes a long way<br />
always comes back to the beginning.<br />
<br />
Tao's great.<br />
Heaven's great.<br />
Earth's great.<br />
And someone who's in touch with Tao is great, too.<br />
Those are the four greatest things in the universe<br />
and a Master is one of them.<br />
<br />
Someone who's in touch with Tao<br />
is in touch with the earth.<br />
The earth is in touch with heaven.<br />
Heaven's in touch with Tao.<br />
Tao's in touch with the way things are.<br />
<br />
So why did I have all those up there? for me they describe God. it has given me the words i have been searching for awhile now to talk about how i view God. just replace the word Tao with the word God, and you get what i have spent this whole blog trying to do.<br />
<br />
for me, the word "God" is an exploder when it comes to descriptions. ex: God is LIKE a father, only no body, outside of time and space, you can’t see him, he’s not married to your mom, he’s not really actually a he and in fact, not like a father at all. If you take a concept that we know and multiply it times infinity, it becomes meaningless; it's exploded. So if both God and the Tao are eternal and outside of space and time then neither cannot be described at all with our words as they are bound by references to time and space. Therefore God and Tao can only be experienced, yet never fully at one time. What our brains can handle, what we can experience, is but a fraction of the fullness of Tao/God.<br />
<br />
it would be like saying "I expect something from you... but it has no due date and it can't be located in this dimension." Many would stop here and say "well, then it's worthless, serves us no earthly good, and i can't believe it." that's a fair option. prolly the more sane one. but that doesn't keep out this strange mystical state i find myself in oft times. have you ever had stuff line up so perfectly that it could go no other way? we laugh and call them co-incidences in our limited knowledge, but they aren't.<br />
<br />
we want to search for these moments, to capture them with language or art... but we can't. not really, not fully. all theological language really conveys no information at all... none that can't be logically reasoned, only experienced. so all that stuff in the bible should NEVER be taken literally. God can't be contained in factual language. all those words should make you feel something, some experience should be triggered.<br />
<br />
we really can't say what the reference is; we can only speak to experience. all we have is metaphor:<br />
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</div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';">yup.. that's the musical part of it ;-D<br />
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so clever.<br />
<br />
anywho, where is this in the Bible? everywhere! but the two places to point to would be: Exodus 31, Moses asks to see the face of God. God tells Moses to crawl into a cave and God will put ‘his’ hand over the opening and Moses will be able to “See my behind.” This is a literal translation of the Hebrew. A deeper translation would be, “you will see where I was.” Not even Moses could see God in the present. This is a God we get only glimpses of. These highly personal encounters are still filled with mystery and, although we may experience God’s love, justice, spirit, or forgiveness directly, we should never take it for the totality of God.</span><br />
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and in John 14:8: Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us."Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?10Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me?"<br />
<div><br />
</div><div>Philip is asking for a Theophany, seeming to forget his Jewish heritage and the fact that no one can see the face of God and live... largely, because God doesn't have a face. if God does, it prolly looks a lot like your neighbor's... or your enemy's. your mom's (no, YOUR mom), and maybe, to someone else, yours, given the right moment.</div><div><br />
</div><div>just my random thoughts tonight... now it's time for this fool to go to bed. </div></div>Lukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-36024135043821319382010-04-27T08:53:00.001-04:002010-04-27T08:53:00.803-04:00Christological CategoriesI was talking with the Pirate in an email conversation and was telling him about the various things I'm learning in Christology class. I love this class! So here's the chart he posted on his site, that i emailed him... so i'm taking it back. stupid stealing pirate! Here are super-condensed versions of three categories demarcated by color and font I think are really helpful:<br />
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #93c47d;">This first category is marked </span></span><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #93c47d;">Doctrines of the Incarnation</span></span></b><br />
<b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #93c47d;"><br />
</span></span></b><br />
<strong><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #93c47d;">Ebionism-</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #93c47d;">An offshoot of the Jewish form of Christianity that solves the Christological problem by denying the divinity of Christ altogether. This </span></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #93c47d;">does</span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #93c47d;"> </span></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #93c47d;">not</span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #93c47d;"> mean that Jesus is regarded as just another human being or a good rabbi. For the Ebionites, Jesus was the Messiah chosen by God, sent by God, and predestined by God to return in majesty to rule the Kingdom of God. Ebionism simply claims that in order to be Messiah and Risen Lord, Jesus did not need to be God.</span></span></span></strong><br />
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<div style="margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 1em;"><strong><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #93c47d;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Docetism-</span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #93c47d;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">The Docetists did the opposite of the Ebionites and eliminated Jesus’ humanity. Jesus was really God and was only pretending to be a human being. His sufferings and death were appearances only.</span></span></span></span></strong></div><div style="margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 1em;"><strong><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #93c47d;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Antiochenism- </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #93c47d;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">The Antiochenes affirmed both the full humanity and divinity of Jesus but tended to regard the two as capable of operating separately. Sometimes Diodore of Tarsus and Theodore of Mopsuestia (two major league Antiochenes) speak of “two sons” a Son of God and Son of Man. They attributed the miracles to Jesus the Son of God and the sufferings to the Son of Man. They wanted to insure that the divinity of Christ would in no way interfere with his humanity. The humanity has its own independent principle of growth and action. In its most radical form, </span></span></span><strong><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #93c47d;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Nestorianism</span></span></span></strong><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #93c47d;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">, the Antiochenes even spoke of “two persons” in Jesus, leaving it unclear how the two are held together. Sometimes they spoke of the two being “married” to one another.</span></span></span></span></strong></div><div style="margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 1em;"><strong><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #93c47d;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Alexandrianism- </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #93c47d;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">The Alexandrians also affirmed the humanity and divinity of Jesus but their stress fell on the unity of the two rather than the difference. Beginning with Clement and Origen (the two heavy weight Alexandrians), the tendency was to regard the divinity as dominating the humanity, even deifying it. The son of God is the governing principle of everything Jesus does.</span></span></span></span></strong></div><div style="margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 1em;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #76a5af;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">The second category is related to the first, namely HOW the incarnation is understood. this could be called </span></span><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #76a5af;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Models of the Incarnation</span></span></span></b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #76a5af;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> and could be understood within any of the four categories up top.</span></span></span></div><div style="margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 1em;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #76a5af;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Ontological Model- </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #76a5af;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">states that Jesus is made of different stuff that the rest of us. These are founded on the virgin births in Luke and Matthew and state that while Jesus does have our biology, if one were to do a biopsy one would find something different that is inherent in Jesus' make-up.</span></span></span></span></b></div><div style="margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 1em;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #76a5af;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Psychological Model- </span></span></span></b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #76a5af;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">based on the adoption of Jesus by God in Mark and John's gospels. This theory states that while Jesus is human just like the rest of us, he somehow had the mind of God and was concerned with what God was concerned with. This doesn't mean that he knew all things that God did as an infinite consciousness can't fit into a finite one, but that Jesus was prayerfully connected 100% of the time, where we are, at best, are connected 10% of the time and usually only when we're in prayer (and that'd be 10% of the time we're even in prayer too).</span></span></span></div><div style="margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 1em;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #76a5af;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Agency Model-</span></span></span></b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #76a5af;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> This model states that Jesus did the things that God would do and that his teaching or biology are of no importance, it is what he DID that was important. To have faith in Christ is to have loyalty to his methods and do what he did. This is largely taken from Paul's letters and understanding of Jesus.</span></span></span></div><div style="margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 1em;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #9fc5e8;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">The final four (so to speak) are the condensed versions of the atonement. these would be called </span></span></span><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #9fc5e8;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Theories of Atonement:</span></span></span></b></div><div style="margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 1em;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #9fc5e8;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Classical- </span></span></span></b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #9fc5e8;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">(aka Greek, Patristic, Eastern): Jesus' resurrection enacts and manifests God's triumph over all the powers and principalities which hold humanity captive and oppressed. These powers could be cosmic (devil, death and demons) or psycho-social (addictions, compulsions, and all the -isms). Jesus is the conquering hero who vanquishes humanity's enemies and the crucifixion is the final (or at the very least decisive) showdown with these powers. It is "objective" even if no one believes it.</span></span></span></div><div style="margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 1em;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #9fc5e8;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Latin- </span></span></span></b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #9fc5e8;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">(aka Western, Anselmic): Jesus' death on the cross somehow atones for human sinfulness. Jesus satisfies the twin requirements of God's justice and mercy. Jesus is the sacrifice who takes away the sins of the world. This is also "objective" in that the relationship with God to humanity has been transformed by Jesus.</span></span></span></div><div style="margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 1em;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #9fc5e8;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Subjective #1- </span></span></span></b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #9fc5e8;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">(aka role model, example): Jesus provides an inspirational example of true human being. By internalizing the picture of Jesus, we can develop Jesus-like qualities. This is "subjective" in that Jesus' work has no impact if it does not inspire the transformation of individual's inner and outer lives.</span></span></span></div><div style="margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 1em;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #9fc5e8;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Subjective #2- </span></span></span></b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #9fc5e8;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">(aka empathic): Jesus is a powerfully moving manifestation of the extent and depth of God's love for humanity. This potent demonstration has the capacity to elicit a loving response in the human heart. This is "subjective" view where Jesus' work is only successful if people are moved by this demonstration of God's love.</span></span></span></div><div style="margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 1em;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">for example, i find myself being a psychological modeled Alexandrian that is a Classic Subjectivist #1 & 2. meaning, Jesus had the mind of God, was very human and yet the divinity shown through both through natural Charisma and presence as well as in hindsight. Thus the incarnation is projected by his followers back onto Jesus. I explained my <a href="http://toothface.blogspot.com/2010/04/my-thoughts-on-atonement-and-christus.html">atonement idea in this post</a> and i talked about how i intersect many. for me, it boils down to the idea that if you aren't affected and experience Jesus then no biggie, you're still good. when told "Jesus loves you" many don't care... but i think the best response is to love him back. thus is one reason why i'm a Christian. hope that example helps. </span></div><div style="margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 1em;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">any questions?</span></div>Lukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.com4tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-86142651845763327472010-04-25T22:19:00.000-04:002010-04-25T22:19:51.234-04:00Two Articles of Notea local minister goes full-out <a href="http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/251749">in this article</a>. she's a little bit of awesome, gotta love those alums! i think i may follow her example.<br />
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the blog post "<a href="http://ephphatha-poetry.blogspot.com/2010/04/imagine-if-tea-party-was-black-tim-wise.html">Imagine if the Tea Party Was Black</a>" by Tim Wise has been getting a lot of attention on my facebook threads, so i thought i'd post it here too. where the hell were these people 7 years ago? hell, how about 3? whatever. it sorta reminds me of this <a href="http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/1736/200905amusingourselvest.png">ol' cartoon about Huxley getting it right vs. Orwell</a>.<br />
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okay.. that was hyper-link-tastic!<br />
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this weekend i hung out in Allentown and preached at my best bud's church, doing the whole Eeyore goes to Tehran. got a great shoo-fly pie too. excellent! came back here and went to TRUCC and listened to a group of awesome and strong women talk about their trip to Mercy Home in Kenya. too much awesomeness to put into words about how good we have it here. these girls are stronger at 5 then a WWE wrestler. walking 2 miles for water every morning at 4 a.m. with a 5 gallon bucket on your head is freak'n strong. it was great to hear their stories. it is also great to be in a church that supports such a great mission without asking anything in return.<br />
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still trying to think up another blog name for wordpress, "considerations" or something might work. or i may drop blogging altogether unless my future church thinks it would be a good idea. just getting frustrated with the level of discourse i fail to live up to. also sick of polemics and homophobia and generally the lamenting and anger at people being human and not living up to their standards... you know, the same standards they themselves can't live up to. bull-hockey i tell you. bullocks and durn it all to tarnation! <br />
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or maybe i should just stick to the fine peeps on my side list ( these ones here---> )and not worry about the rest of the world.Lukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.com8tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-73361773406753324352010-04-22T07:48:00.000-04:002010-04-22T07:48:00.627-04:00Resist and CreateI sat in a lecture by <a href="http://monicaacoleman.com/books/making-a-way-out-of-no-way/">Monica A. Coleman</a>, a post-modern womanist process author, here at LTS and it was great! She stated that while she's a constructionist (vs. a theological deconstructionist where many post-moderns go) she thought that Karl Barth had a good idea. Barth is known for his massive theological works, around 12 volumes, but when asked what was at the core, he replied "Jesus loves me, this I know." Monica stated that to get to this "core" ppl ask themselves what keeps them up at night and how do they go about solving this? this should help boil your thought process down to something. Monica's was "break the silence" as silence does not serve nor help ppl who are subject to oppression.<br />
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that made me try to figure my own core out.<br />
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i know i like inclusion, humanity, science, art, religions, and seeing how each one connects and feeds another. i get really angry with "slash and burn" style of thinking whether it be Christian or Atheist. "well it has nothing to do with XX*, so it's worthless" *this can be filled with Jesus, the facts, the Bible, science or whatever depending on who is speaking. that seems rather dualistic, taking only a "right and wrong" scenario and tossing out all the grey. so initially i thought my core was <b>"Resist and Destroy" </b>as i resist this type of thinking and see it everywhere i look in my context, both online and offline. i think this is what compelled me into ministry, seeing that things can be different, that the fundies don't have the last word on Christianity, that the atheists aren't right, that there is a middle ground and the two extremes must be destroyed. funny and ironic thing is, both fundies and atheists (of the slash-and-burn style) do have some good things going for them and destroying them would go against my inclusive nature and de-humanize them.<br />
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so instead, i think my core is <b>"Resist and Create." </b><br />
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i could get all bent out of shape on how ppl view God, or how they have stupid theologies like The Rapture and how they often miss Jesus in their midst because that incarnation of Jesus at the time happens to be a non-Christian, forgetting that Jesus was Jewish in the first place! or that my more empirical brothers and sisters rule out anything that can't be verified through the scientific method and thus become "science literalists" stating that sciences PROVES so much... forgetting that science doesn't PROVE anything. as Einstein stated (paraphrased by me) science sets up helpful models and theories that help us make sense of things that are going on out there, all it takes is for one experiment, and those theories are out the window. as this is a short blogpost, i'll move on from there, knowing that both of these aren't sufficient and are characterizations. i know that, but this is my blog and i'm the creator here ;-)<br />
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i want to create a new way of creating my faith. i want to resist things like de-humanizing, colonialization, literalism, and create something new. i claim being a Christian because it's important to me. i recently talked with Sabio as to why and i want further <a href="http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2010/04/12/strong-vs-weak-theology/#comments">that discussion</a> as i am often met with the phrase "Well you don't SOUND Christian." both by atheists and believers alike.<br />
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it is my view that everything that happens is a product of the past, we are to deal with what's possible, and we are what we do with those things. i'm a product of a white, Roman Catholic, single mom in south-east Ohio. my context, i'm blue collar, under-exposed to diversity, Christian for as long as my geneology goes, and some what of a naturalist,scientist, and mechanic thanks to my mom's interests in nature and career as car mechanic. what i have done with those things is create something new and rather bold... i'm no longer Catholic, i will soon have two degrees, i've committed myself to diversity, studied other faiths, and kept the interests in science and such.<br />
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i must create! whether it be blog posts like this one, or this one from my <a href="http://toothface.blogspot.com/2008/01/art-work.html">Art Series</a> at the end of my first semester, or <a href="http://toothface.blogspot.com/search/label/hyperlink%20poems">my poems</a>, or even my crappy cartoons over <a href="http://unidactyl.blogspot.com/">at Unidactyl</a>. Check out that site please, i have a cartoon every 4 days from now until June! i like hanging around ppl who create and i'm even more honored to be around those who can create new directions for the traditions they find themselves in.<br />
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so there it is. pretty slick right? maybe? ok, no... but here are two good buddies of mine that are creating some pretty awesome stuff. my best friend growing up has a band called LifeLine and he's the lead singer! i can proudly say that i attempted to play in a band with that guy! now he's on tour with TANTRIC. here's a slick song of his:<br />
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here's another dude in a band... he is also the lead singer here and went to seminary before he landed a dream job as a sound mixer for a local recording studio. since then he has formed The Hititz and has been playing locally here and i love how poppy this stuff is. it's audio crack! Eve loves it too.<br />
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which one do you like?Lukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-90570596908421244262010-04-20T00:37:00.003-04:002010-04-20T00:37:00.605-04:00Jesus Needs New PRsearching around on the internetz and i found this from <a href="http://www.irishcalvinist.com/?p=1283">a pastor reviewing</a> Rob Bell's Velvet Elvis book:<br />
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<blockquote>Living the “Jesus life” is not the essence of Christianity and neither is obeying the commands of Jesus (as important as that is). The essence of Christianity centers upon the work of Christ on behalf of sinners (i.e. substitutionary atonement). This is the matter of first importance (<a class="lbsBibleRef" href="http://bible.logos.com/passage/esv/1%20Corinthians%2015.3" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: black;">1 Corinthians 15:3</span></a><a class="lbsLibronix" href="libronixdls:keylink|ref=[en]bible:1Corinthians15.3|res=LLS:ESV"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: black;"><img align="bottom" border="0" src="http://www.logos.com/images/Corporate/LibronixLink_dark.png" style="border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; float: none; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 4px; margin-right: 0px; max-width: 100%; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" title="Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)" /></span></a>) that was the prioritized message of Jesus’ apostles (e.g. <a class="lbsBibleRef" href="http://bible.logos.com/passage/esv/1%20Corinthians%202.2" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: black;">1 Corinthians 2:2</span></a><a class="lbsLibronix" href="libronixdls:keylink|ref=[en]bible:1Corinthians2.2|res=LLS:ESV"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: black;"><img align="bottom" border="0" src="http://www.logos.com/images/Corporate/LibronixLink_dark.png" style="border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; float: none; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 4px; margin-right: 0px; max-width: 100%; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" title="Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)" /></span></a>)</blockquote>followed by other 'yeah-that's-right-you-tell'ems" such as:<br />
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<blockquote>I’ve read some of Crossan’s books and they are very, very troubling. They are attempting to turn Christianity into a crossless religion. The Cross brings offense and always will. I say “let them alone. They are the blind leading the blind.” </blockquote>oy! adventures in missing the point! i love how people put Paul over Jesus. Paul DOES NOT talk about Jesus. Paul is largely not concerned with talking about who Jesus is. Instead Paul is a church conflict manager, he is concerned with POWER and AUTHORITY in church and that is why he spends so much time putting himself on par with the other apostles and giving out unsolicited advice to church communities.<br />
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here are two thoughts for readers of this blog and Christians in general: If living the life of Jesus isn't the point, you're wrong. if the eschatology isn't a participatory one, you're wrong. no if's, and's, or but's about it.<br />
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<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgl1JQlcIBEtrarij8nHVFi4d50L2T6zv2o8MOZmruEeIuWDmwiI6aVxQIg1tqO4j6YVAzkWBAglDhNbs05k6Oq03Vbs14L7FImh-HoztV0tWASbSq51GT0SmGdUcbvlKN0qUJY/s1600/better+pr.gif" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgl1JQlcIBEtrarij8nHVFi4d50L2T6zv2o8MOZmruEeIuWDmwiI6aVxQIg1tqO4j6YVAzkWBAglDhNbs05k6Oq03Vbs14L7FImh-HoztV0tWASbSq51GT0SmGdUcbvlKN0qUJY/s320/better+pr.gif" /></a></div>I like Crossan and Borg and they don't lead people away from the cross, they help people understand what got Jesus there, namely HIS LIFE! When Jesus said TAKE UP YOUR CROSS AND FOLLOW ME, he's asking ppl to live a life like his that will ultimately lead to your death, literally or metaphorically (dying to yourself and such like). Christianity at its root (Jesus) is non-violent and anti-empire (due to the simple fact that all empires endorse violence). The early church was also non-violent and anti-empire...and that tradition has been carried on by some, though not all, Christians. while the cross does bring offense, Crossan doesn't do away with it, he does away of the literal resurrection: cross is still prominent.<br />
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</div><div>I'm against people taking an anti-empire, anti-conventional wisdom and dumbing it down to "be a good citizen, believe what we teach you, and tithe." Doctrines and tradition are important, being a good citizen is responsible and a good fulfillment of the social contract, but don't think for a minute that these make one a Christian.</div><div><br />
</div><div>All this to say I'm sick of slash-and-burn Christianity, I'm sick of other Christians calling other Christians NOT Christian (unChristian yes, fair game, we can act unChristian many a times). I'm sick of anti-science, anti-intellectual, and anti-liberal/critical method Christianity. When i read crap like that, i feel as though i'm an outsider in my own faith; a thinker surrounded by over-emotional feelers. i know i'm not alone and i'm on a mission to find such people that are dying to hear people like Borg, Crossan, and Bell, and give Jesus some new PR.<br />
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image found at <a href="http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=373">SINFEST</a> where the copyright is held: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #4b4552;"><b><span style="color: silver; font-family: 'Photoshop Large'; font-size: x-small;">copyright 2008 by Tatsuya Ishida/Museworks</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: black;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"> used here for the intended purpose to get all you jerks to go to that site and check it out!</span></span></b></span></div>Lukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.com5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-90331547540596540752010-04-19T00:22:00.000-04:002010-04-19T00:22:23.015-04:00Pure Religion<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: small;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;">There is no such thing as a “categorically pure” religion. It is simply a myth and a potentially dangerous one.<br />
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Many streams of my own faith state that they are either the first and true church (Roman Catholics and all the various Orthodox claim this) or a return to the true faith of Christ (which is everyone else). Jesus’ faith was based on a Jewish worldview at a time of oppression. Jesus’ followers went global after his death and what resulted was their own interpretation of who Jesus was coming into conflict with Greco-Roman philosophies (hence the strong Aristotelian and Platonic emphasis) or North African faiths and philosophies (Origen, Augustine, Tertullian, and ecstatic prayer/worship practices). So Christianity wasn’t pure from the on-set! Paul’s letters really expose the diversity of Christian thought and practice as he wrote so much about how one can be Gentile and uncircumcised over against those who disagreed (aka the Super Apostles), and against the Gnostics. So it is my basic assumption that religions adapt, change, and cross-pollinate.<br />
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We see this in all major religions, divergent belief systems as the faiths grow and change and meet new contexts.<br />
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This changing and adaptation is nature and should be embraced. What doesn’t change in nature soon goes extinct. There are some notable exceptions like the horseshoe crab and alligators and crocodiles that haven’t really changed since they were hanging out with the dinosaurs, but for the most part everything is influx and adapting to new situations. Thus all religions reflect a lived reality. The best and most popular religions are ones that are both pragmatic and metaphoric. These religions seem to give people words for their experience of the world, and the ritual and theology that follow these stories work in the believer’s every day context.</span></span></span></div>Lukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.com37tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-66960241651126090122010-04-15T06:04:00.002-04:002010-04-15T06:04:00.842-04:00Eve is One!<object height="385" width="480"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/-k9oLetV9ys&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/-k9oLetV9ys&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object><br />
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happy kid! a real bodhisattva! she is a joyful soul. Happy First Birthday Eve!<br />
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Here's the video from her "early birthday" shot at the Flying ~E~<br />
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here was <a href="http://toothface.blogspot.com/2009/04/eve-elizabeth.html">your first look</a> this time last year.Lukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-89231300013532831712010-04-14T07:37:00.001-04:002010-04-14T07:37:00.905-04:00My Thoughts on Atonement and Christus Victor<a href="http://rainandtherhinoceros.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/jesus.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="200" src="http://rainandtherhinoceros.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/jesus.jpg" width="137" /></a>before we talk about atonement, we must first talk about who Jesus is and how i view him. to use Marcus Borg's idea, there is two Jesi, the pre-Easter Jesus and the post-Easter Jesus.<br />
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The pre-Easter would be the historical dude that you could have videotaped. He was Jewish mystic, healer, wisdom teacher, and prophet of the kingdom of God; he proclaimed the immediacy of access to God and God's kingdom; he challenged the domination systems of his time, was executed by the authorities, and then vindicated by God (Borg, 303).<br />
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<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/images/king.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" height="200" src="http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/images/king.jpg" width="151" /></a></div>In the decades after Easter, his followers spoke of his significance with the most exalted language they knew: son of God, Messiah, Lord, Light of the world, ect. This is the community's language about him. I, like Borg, do not think that these two need to be separated, and in fact, you can't separate them as they are inherent in the gospel narratives. the gospels are both testimony and memory; history as well as parabolic language (language of parable, metaphoric language). Thus the real Jesus is one who lived 2,000 years ago and was a Galilean peasant-teacher and the one who has shaped the lives of millions of people, many of whom claim to have met him and have a personal relationship with.<br />
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Both matter, both are true.<br />
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This would be the <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"><strong>Alexandrian </strong><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">view of Jesus where he is both human and divine, but the divine overrides the humanity, just as it did in the gospels and in the historical community that called themselves Christian.</span></span></span><br />
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with that straight, i then head to atonement. As stated before, i used to throw people under the bus who subscribed to sacrificial atonement. i still think it's bad theology and bad history as it elevates one understanding and way of viewing Jesus over the rest. the substitutionary atonement i still have no room for as i think it's Vampire Christianity; interested in Jesus' blood and little else. I don't like sacrificial as it is often understood as God demanding death and thus having it be a part of God's plan for the salvation of everyone else. this misses the humanity of Jesus as well as the life he was willing to sacrifice for his beliefs, his passion which drove him to say the things he said and get him killed by the authorities of his time. they don't crucify people for no reason, they were enemies of the state, politically dangerous!<br />
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The substitutionary atonement model i understand now more than i did. i think becoming a parent has helped with this view. yet i don't see <a href="http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2010/04/04/jesus-was-a-coward/">Jesus as a doormat or coward</a>. He was akin to the archetype of the forceful, yet nonviolent, organizer. A grass-roots agitator calling for equity and fairness for all. The type that gets the gentry all riled up and the rich nervous. A force that needs removing or one we need to co-opt and normalize.<br />
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I also disagree with Christus Victor because i do not have angels or demons in my metaphysic. I have God with no devil. we do the job of temptation very well on our own with our own biological framework to have a dude in a red suit running around. Humans are inescapably subject to the temptation of evil. We get into trouble when we de-humanize or de-prioritize others and put ourselves first.<br />
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When we deny that we are captive, we conjure notions of social progress, romantic optimism, manifest destiny, all forms of human pride that overlook our fragility and limitation. yet on the other extreme, which Christians have been labeled more often than not, we capitulate to the tragic and doomed outlook on life. We lose hope.<br />
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The resurrection, whether understood metaphorically or literally, is resistance to the powers of death, a refusal to allow death to have the final word, which is where I connect to the Christus Victor model. The power of the cross subverts it's own nature as an instrument of death, harmful and oppressive, and instead becomes an intellectual, spiritual, and communal resource for radical change. God's presence is then with those who suffer, telling them that they aren't to be afraid anymore. No worries about death, that isn't the worst thing that could happen to you. The cross and resurrection are a two fold attack to the masochism of submissive suffering and the pride of unchecked triumphalism. it boldly reclaims common humanity, in this rubric there is no room for the other.<br />
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In this way, I'm Christus Victor. Death cannot defeat life, life will always carry on in some form. yet it always changes, it is impermanent. life adapts, grows, and leaves us behind, yet our children will go on and their children after them. that's why it is good to plan to the 7th generation in your actions. yet when we do act, we do so not fearing death yet understanding our limitations. In Jesus, the powerful tried to kill him and it didn't work. the worst evil could do was try to kill us and it never can kill us all. even when we die and we finally know what lies beyond, i believe we will all be welcomed in. this is where apokatastasis comes in. because i see God through Jesus, i see that even the forsaken, those outcasted and assured a place in hell are welcomed. the cross overturns all of our conventions. this is what it means when the gospels read "he died for the sins of the world" or "his life was ransom for many" (paraphrases from john and mark). as to what heaven looks like, that's as far as my metaphysic goes. heaven, yes, hell if we chose it and be it of our own making.<br />
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the problem then becomes when the church seeks cultural convention and prejudice over the radical message Jesus so passionately died for. this doesn't mean that i'm not patriotic, i'm just not nationalistic. i'm a Christian not because i'm after a ticket to heaven, or need to meet requirements for salvation. no, i'm after a community that seeks transformation of themselves into Jesus. I'm after a better world. a more just world, a more equitable world.<br />
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we are building up the new world. resistance is victory, defeat is impossible.<br />
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Bond, Susan. <u>The Trouble with Jesus.</u><br />
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Borg, Marcus. <u>Jesus: Uncovering the Life, Teachings, and Relevance of a Religious Revolutionary.</u><br />
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Weaver, J. Denny. <u>The Nonviolent Atonement</u>Lukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.com3