tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post7636012104048808226..comments2023-06-12T04:37:58.897-04:00Comments on Toothface: Free Will?Lukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-435834790370536972009-05-01T17:31:00.000-04:002009-05-01T17:31:00.000-04:00Talmud teaches, "Everything is foreseen; yet free ...Talmud teaches, "Everything is foreseen; yet free will is given" - Pirkei Avot 3:15<br /><br />Which interpreted means, "Hell if we know!"Yaelhttp://yaelsplace.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-92023824007258286472009-05-01T16:10:00.000-04:002009-05-01T16:10:00.000-04:00"If your god is all-knowing" -Mac
i am unable to ..."If your god is all-knowing" -Mac<br /><br />i am unable to say what God knows or doesn't know. the only thing i can say is that i'm sure God knows more than i do. <br /><br />i would think God takes the stance much like Paul does when he says "all things are free but not all things are prudent."<br /><br />i'd view God more as a guide than a puppet master. like Sally asked, what kind of relationship would it be if God knew everything that was going to happen in it; how fulfilling would that be?Lukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-38475620793151416162009-05-01T15:40:00.000-04:002009-05-01T15:40:00.000-04:00mac - Are you equating "knowing" and "affecting"? ...mac - Are you equating "knowing" and "affecting"? Knowledge of an occurance and action regarding it...Are they the same?Sallyhttp://yieldtopedestrians.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-33217834222940712092009-05-01T14:46:00.000-04:002009-05-01T14:46:00.000-04:00If your god is all-knowing,(knows all that will an...If your god is all-knowing,(knows all that will and all that has happened) Where is free will?<br /><br />If we are predestined, how is it OUR choice?machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04073782907747032366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-78820197970652074592009-05-01T05:17:00.000-04:002009-05-01T05:17:00.000-04:00Societyvs
"Free will and determinism - I am free w...Societyvs<br />"Free will and determinism - I am free will all the way baby - party time - excellent - wait was that determined as my answer? Sh*t!"<br />LOL....TOO FUNNY!<br /><br />Luke<br />"in an infinite universe and a present and active Creator, i really can't rule out predestination or freewill. i would air on the side of freewill, that we make our choices because that's how it seems to us and perception is largely reality in the psychological circles."<br />I err on the side of free will too! Oh wait, you knew I was going to say that...my thought is, if we look at things from God's perspective (if that is even possible) how would it be to create human beings and then assign them a life? If God wants a relationship with us but that relationship is predestined by God then how satisfying or real is the relationship?Sallyhttp://yieldtopedestrians.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-63917155623224706352009-04-30T23:28:00.000-04:002009-04-30T23:28:00.000-04:00Paul, welcome to the blog, thanks for checking out...Paul, welcome to the blog, thanks for checking out the site.<br /><br />in an infinite universe and a present and active Creator, i really can't rule out predestination or freewill. i would air on the side of freewill, that we make our choices because that's how it seems to us and perception is largely reality in the psychological circles. <br /><br />but that pesky hindsight is 20/20 and we can see how we were destined to make certian choices... or at least be able to track the path of our freedom to a given end.<br /><br />so it goes. ;-)Lukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-7028009267234859432009-04-30T17:44:00.000-04:002009-04-30T17:44:00.000-04:00"One could make a choice other than the one they m..."One could make a choice other than the one they made in a particular set of circumstances."<br /><br />Right - seems to me that would be free will.<br /><br />I think the reason the debate has gone on thousands of years is because the universe is a one-way time machine. Nobody gets to go back in time for a do-over to see learn if really they could have done any different.<br /><br />So I can't see my way clear to strongly believing or disbelieving in free will. I guess I tend to think we do have some degree of freedom, but that's because it seems to feel that way. But the feeling of having choices isn't proof...Paul Maurice Martinhttp://www.originalfaith.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-33906006051519242262009-04-30T11:28:00.000-04:002009-04-30T11:28:00.000-04:00Free will and determinism - I am free will all the...Free will and determinism - I am free will all the way baby - party time - excellent - wait was that determined as my answer? Sh*t!<br /><br />I like the collective will idea - fits with my atonement idea - or should anyways (and it's not my idea - it's Judaic in it formation)...no props for me - sh*t!<br /><br />But we are bound to one another and the one's who cannot see this are the same ones that ruin the societies we partake in. If I know my actions can have an adverse or positive effect on you - then I should be very responsible & caring with that. We all can make mistakes in this - just that the huge ones have ripple effects that shake sh*t up for a lot of people. <br /><br />For the determinists - if I was going to say a swear what would it be based on the paragraphs I gave? <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />motherf*ckerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-31069947220593011832009-04-30T09:09:00.000-04:002009-04-30T09:09:00.000-04:00If you were to look upon humans as "One body" then...If you were to look upon humans as "One body" then maybe we have a specific purpose or function to help maintain the overall health of the body. The challenge is finding out what that is and remembering that if you are not doing what you were made to do, you actually cause a malfunction to the overall system. Fortunately we have eternity to work that out. ;)Tit for Tathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09454132514796693591noreply@blogger.com