tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post4345916827220437282..comments2023-06-12T04:37:58.897-04:00Comments on Toothface: World Religions FinalLukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-22925134024638478362010-05-23T04:58:39.313-04:002010-05-23T04:58:39.313-04:00Some blogs allow a title of a comment. I was tryi...Some blogs allow a title of a comment. I was trying to give it form. Not trying to irritate.<br /><br />It is so classic for "orthodox" Christian groups to call other Christian groups "weird", "sects" or "cults". The post I wrote on that illustrates my aversion to this common habit of the majority.Sabio Lantzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12963476276106907984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-60213888616795896332010-05-22T23:07:40.453-04:002010-05-22T23:07:40.453-04:00Sabio: i gotta say, AB is right, the bold letters ...Sabio: i gotta say, AB is right, the bold letters only serve as irritant.i thought i wrote "<b>but i'm not sure where i stand.</b> there are cases that new insights can be sprung out of old doctrines and texts of the various world religions." <br /><br />in my mind, weird does not equal wrong, just beyond my scope. i totally acknowledge i'm weird and i'm in a weird tradition and an especially a weird denomination. we put the German Reformed peeps with Congregationalists?! do you know how crazy that actually is?!?! maybe not... but it is.Lukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-71965885868450365332010-05-21T23:41:15.006-04:002010-05-21T23:41:15.006-04:00So putting that comment in bold makes it more viab...So putting that comment in bold makes it more viable? All religions have an element of local adaptation, some are closer than others. The global span of the Anglican Church is a good example of both "backyard religion" as well as a communal approach to the divine. You're plain wrong on that point. As for having a weird view of God, I see your no-god as weird. Hell, maybe Christians are right and there is something "weird" about humanity, but we call it original sin.Anglican Boynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-54161988521093407132010-05-21T18:01:12.806-04:002010-05-21T18:01:12.806-04:00Your God is Weird
(1) There is no "community...<b>Your God is Weird</b><br /><br />(1) There is no "community approach" to the divine, only the individual and there is huge variety there. Being a religious professional now, you will perhaps try to convince others that they share a community approach -- good luck with that.<br /><br />(2) So why are you "weary of backyard religion"? Probably a huge percent of modern Christians would consider your religion is backyard religion created on the fly. ALL religions started as someone's backyard religion. It is so, so, so, so funny to hear you call Marcionites and Mormons and 7DA as "weird" when you can imagine how weird I think the god of orthodox Christianity is (yeah, not your panentheistic universalist god). See my post on "<a href="http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2010/01/25/your-god-is-weird/" rel="nofollow">Your god is Weird!"</a>.<br /><br />(3) Luke, you misunderstand me if you think I desire people to be Atheists. I need to finish to finish my series on "How to Cure a Christian" to make it clear perhaps. You may wish to re-read, <a href="http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2009/08/14/atheism-an-epiphenomenon/" rel="nofollow">"Atheism: An Epiphenomena"</a>Sabio Lantzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12963476276106907984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-2824297133482024642010-05-21T10:50:11.218-04:002010-05-21T10:50:11.218-04:00Doctrines are very important as they help articula...Doctrines are very important as they help articulate a community's approach to the divine. it describes the indescribable. where we err often times is taking a literal approach or saying that It is THIS DOCTRINE that is essential, and nothing else. <br /><br />as for beowulf, it is outside of my knowledge and every source i've read from Origen to Ehrman stated "Marcion had it right with making up a canon, but that's about it." i can only speak to my experience, so i explained where i was coming from, he made his case, and i have to say i gotta go back and study some more. esp. from the POV of Marcionites.<br /><br />"In your metaphor, can someone create their own valid path or does one always have to go on paths worn by others?"<br /><br />i am weary of "backyard religion" as i do not see a whole lot of room for transformation, just bias reinforcement. Reinhold Neihbur talks about this in his book "Moral Man, Immoral Society" but i'm not sure where i stand. there are cases that new insights can be sprung out of old doctrines and texts of the various world religions. a mash up of taoism and Christianity and Buddhism would be cool, but i like those religions. i think Mormonism and 7th Day Adventists and Marcionites are weird; i can't get my head around them, but there are also some theologies that are considered "orthodox" that i don't get either, like transubstantiation and baptism that washes away original sin. <br /><br />this writing seems to go one way and my other writing another? i dunno man, you seem open to a lot of ppl too, yet desire them to be an atheist like you in other parts. speck in an eye, log in your own. maybe we're all guilty of this. i know i am. i am in tension of my own beliefs and my neighbors. what i hope to do is be open enough to stay in the conversation and educated enough to articulate where i stand and why. that's all i can do and all i can ask of others.Lukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-23949618687503573522010-05-21T07:21:16.312-04:002010-05-21T07:21:16.312-04:00(1) You modified mountain metaphor would imply tha...(1) You modified mountain metaphor would imply that doctrines are not important. Yet you argued with Beowulf in the previous post a little like AB boy use to argue with you. <br /><br />(2) In your metaphor, can someone create their own valid path or does one always have to go on paths worn by others?<br /><br />Feeding the two questions above is my personal belief that what matters is deeper than doctrine or religious beliefs. Your mountain metaphor seems like it is going that way, but your other writings don't.Sabio Lantzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12963476276106907984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-43070512911828719362010-05-20T10:04:41.716-04:002010-05-20T10:04:41.716-04:00AL! it is you! no need to apologize, i was just su...AL! it is you! no need to apologize, i was just surprised because i do remember you saying that and i do remember the stories you told us... like freckles are caused by standing too close to a cow's butt while poop'n. <br /><br />it's great you've found my site, and i'll give you a call in the near future. until then, you're more than welcomed here on the site and comment away! take care!Lukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-75948576245620870822010-05-19T21:13:59.691-04:002010-05-19T21:13:59.691-04:00Luke , Iam so sorry if i upset you or anybody else...Luke , Iam so sorry if i upset you or anybody else. It was just a joke.I just wanted to see if you would remember how i joked with you and Val. So sorry!!!!!!!. Do you remember the stories i told you and Val when you were growing up? I would love to talk with you on phone your mom has #. If she ever talks to me agin.SorryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-23750393397048410162010-05-19T13:07:16.982-04:002010-05-19T13:07:16.982-04:00my mom's ex-boyfriend Al used to say that all ...my mom's ex-boyfriend Al used to say that all the time. you don't happen to be him?Lukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03734930079710820207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9312888.post-4696776291516952142010-05-18T22:46:11.642-04:002010-05-18T22:46:11.642-04:00Hi, Anybody beat the dog snot out of you lately???...Hi, Anybody beat the dog snot out of you lately??????? HA . HA . HA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com